somegchuh
01-03 03:35 PM
I think this is a really complex issue. We go thru a lot of thoughts now and then.
When I think rationally this is what I am concerned about:
1. Social isolation from family (brother/sisters/extended family) in the long run.
2. Inability to support aging parents.
The second issue weighs down on my soul more because supporting aging parents is a debt we are all supposed to pay back (regardless of ethnicity/class/caste/nationality/...). We are not supposed to run away from it. Some of us are lucky to have sibilings who are supporting the parents back home and that makes it a little easier. I know some of us even have single parents living by themselves.
The long wait makes it hard for you and wife. So you really feel frustrated and want to leave. At the same time waiting for GC your career has been stagnating for years, your wife hasn't had a job in years and that makes going back harder. Its like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Things seem good with a GC in US and they look good back home but we seem to be getting neither ... *sigh*
When I think rationally this is what I am concerned about:
1. Social isolation from family (brother/sisters/extended family) in the long run.
2. Inability to support aging parents.
The second issue weighs down on my soul more because supporting aging parents is a debt we are all supposed to pay back (regardless of ethnicity/class/caste/nationality/...). We are not supposed to run away from it. Some of us are lucky to have sibilings who are supporting the parents back home and that makes it a little easier. I know some of us even have single parents living by themselves.
The long wait makes it hard for you and wife. So you really feel frustrated and want to leave. At the same time waiting for GC your career has been stagnating for years, your wife hasn't had a job in years and that makes going back harder. Its like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Things seem good with a GC in US and they look good back home but we seem to be getting neither ... *sigh*
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rajarao
09-10 07:28 AM
Data available in Mumbai consulate website
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html
Category India Most Other Countries
F1 15 April 2002 15 April 2002
FX 1 May 2001 1 May 2001
F2A 1 January 2004 1 January 2004
F2B 15 December 1999 15 December 1999
F3 22 June 2000 22 June 2000
F4 22 May 1997 22 October 1997
E1 Current Current
E2 1 April 2003 Current
E3 1 July 2001 1 January 2005
EW 1 Janurary 2003 1 Janurary 2003
E4 Current Current
E4-Religious Current Current
Great Job TSC/NSC and DOS.
One day 2006 applications are approved and next month you go into stone ages. What a wonderful system....
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html
Category India Most Other Countries
F1 15 April 2002 15 April 2002
FX 1 May 2001 1 May 2001
F2A 1 January 2004 1 January 2004
F2B 15 December 1999 15 December 1999
F3 22 June 2000 22 June 2000
F4 22 May 1997 22 October 1997
E1 Current Current
E2 1 April 2003 Current
E3 1 July 2001 1 January 2005
EW 1 Janurary 2003 1 Janurary 2003
E4 Current Current
E4-Religious Current Current
Great Job TSC/NSC and DOS.
One day 2006 applications are approved and next month you go into stone ages. What a wonderful system....
Zee
07-04 05:17 PM
I sent an email to all 100 senators, hopefully they will reply.
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bestofall
03-02 05:50 PM
I go to India atleast once every year and I agree that the urban infrastructure has changed a lot. But, such a change has created overcrowding in major cities which has lead to heavy pollution, rocketing inflation, high cost of living, and what not. You can get anything you want - best education, best food, best best best .... if you can afford.
During one of the trips couple of years back I did a casual interview at a huge software giant in Chennai just to guage how well I will fit. This was for a programming job in C++. Interview was rookie, intrerviewer was surprised why I want to come back because people actually seek such companies as route to US or UK and also made me feel that I may not be satisfied with the job if he has to offer.
So here is the thing. If you want to go back and lead a good life - I think it is a good idea provided you have very good education and experience and you get into the league of executives or you want to set up some booming business.
If you want to go back and work at a managerial level - you may not find things that interesting because of the affordibnility factor.
It is totally upto you to decide. If you look at urban infrastructure, India is developing, but in my opinion, the only way India can develop as a nation is by bringing about a change from the grassroots - change in beliefs, politics, innovations, products , hygene, uniform standards of living etc....
Well said Chandu !
During one of the trips couple of years back I did a casual interview at a huge software giant in Chennai just to guage how well I will fit. This was for a programming job in C++. Interview was rookie, intrerviewer was surprised why I want to come back because people actually seek such companies as route to US or UK and also made me feel that I may not be satisfied with the job if he has to offer.
So here is the thing. If you want to go back and lead a good life - I think it is a good idea provided you have very good education and experience and you get into the league of executives or you want to set up some booming business.
If you want to go back and work at a managerial level - you may not find things that interesting because of the affordibnility factor.
It is totally upto you to decide. If you look at urban infrastructure, India is developing, but in my opinion, the only way India can develop as a nation is by bringing about a change from the grassroots - change in beliefs, politics, innovations, products , hygene, uniform standards of living etc....
Well said Chandu !
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eastindia
03-06 09:35 PM
I feel like giving up today after I saw a friend of mine leaving to india with a US Citizenship and an overseas citizen of india card.
The irony is he applied two months after me in the same category except his application was from a different state.
Now it makes me think, if I have to go through this process and after 5 years if I end up like my friend, then I might as well do it now...:confused:
Going back after US citizenship makes sense. He can come back when he wants and also get social security, medicare etc
But going back before that is defeat.
The irony is he applied two months after me in the same category except his application was from a different state.
Now it makes me think, if I have to go through this process and after 5 years if I end up like my friend, then I might as well do it now...:confused:
Going back after US citizenship makes sense. He can come back when he wants and also get social security, medicare etc
But going back before that is defeat.
vinabath
07-20 12:59 PM
Not trying to be pessimitic her but any new hires will need to be trained, and infrastructure need to be set up. All these things do not happen overnight.
Also, there are dependancies. I-485 information needs to be entered in the system and A # on I-140 need to be crosschecked. If one is not available already then it needs to be generated.
All these add to the time.
You are not pessimistic. I know how federal contracting happens. If I am the federal contractor to USCIS and I have a contract with them. Lets say contract 's scope of work to process 485, 140, 765, 131 apps. USCIS can always add money to existing contract and ask for more man hours for the contract year. Most of the time Federal Installations have extra space to accomodate new temp resources.
So in 2-3 months they can add more resources to take care of this shit. But I can say for sure that dont expect EAD or AP in 3 months.
Also, there are dependancies. I-485 information needs to be entered in the system and A # on I-140 need to be crosschecked. If one is not available already then it needs to be generated.
All these add to the time.
You are not pessimistic. I know how federal contracting happens. If I am the federal contractor to USCIS and I have a contract with them. Lets say contract 's scope of work to process 485, 140, 765, 131 apps. USCIS can always add money to existing contract and ask for more man hours for the contract year. Most of the time Federal Installations have extra space to accomodate new temp resources.
So in 2-3 months they can add more resources to take care of this shit. But I can say for sure that dont expect EAD or AP in 3 months.
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amslonewolf
08-13 05:27 PM
EB3 from June 2008 bulletin
All Charge-ability Areas -1-Mar-06
China - 22-Mar-03
India - 1-Nov-01
Mexico - 1-Jul-02
Philippines - 1-Mar-06
September 2008 bulletin -Comment
D. VISA AVAILABILITY FOR OCTOBER
The Mexico F2A and Employment Third preference cut-off dates are “unavailable” for both August and September, since those FY-2008 annual limits have been reached. The Visa Office had originally anticipated that this would be a temporary situation. Then with the start of the new fiscal year in October the cut-off dates would have returned to those which had applied during June. However, continued heavy demand in those categories may require the establishment of cut-off dates which are earlier than those which had applied in June. A formal decision determination of the October cut-off dates will not be possible until early September.
My take on this is that there might be some balancing act across the EB3-Sub categories. If you notice in the June 2008 dates, there is a huge discrepancy in the EB3- Sub categories.
For example, Philippines is 1-Mar-06 and India is 1-Nov-01.
Who knows, they might move back the EB3- Philippines/ROW and move forward (or leave it on 1-NOV-01) the EB3-India dates.. This is a possibility from the text of the September 2008 bulletin. So, it's not all gloom and doom for EB3 Categories..
All Charge-ability Areas -1-Mar-06
China - 22-Mar-03
India - 1-Nov-01
Mexico - 1-Jul-02
Philippines - 1-Mar-06
September 2008 bulletin -Comment
D. VISA AVAILABILITY FOR OCTOBER
The Mexico F2A and Employment Third preference cut-off dates are “unavailable” for both August and September, since those FY-2008 annual limits have been reached. The Visa Office had originally anticipated that this would be a temporary situation. Then with the start of the new fiscal year in October the cut-off dates would have returned to those which had applied during June. However, continued heavy demand in those categories may require the establishment of cut-off dates which are earlier than those which had applied in June. A formal decision determination of the October cut-off dates will not be possible until early September.
My take on this is that there might be some balancing act across the EB3-Sub categories. If you notice in the June 2008 dates, there is a huge discrepancy in the EB3- Sub categories.
For example, Philippines is 1-Mar-06 and India is 1-Nov-01.
Who knows, they might move back the EB3- Philippines/ROW and move forward (or leave it on 1-NOV-01) the EB3-India dates.. This is a possibility from the text of the September 2008 bulletin. So, it's not all gloom and doom for EB3 Categories..
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pani_6
09-12 12:23 AM
I wouldnt mind sending old bata slippers:D to beat themselves with
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black_logs
04-25 01:14 PM
Guys let me clearify it. We cannot change our agenda at this point . It is not an option. We have done 1000's of hr discussions with QGA and so many meetings with various Senators and Congressmen to get our agenda finalized. Adding something new to our agenda is not an option. But this is a very healthy discussion going on here. Pleople can send personal comments and ideas to the lawmakers. This is surely a very good suggestion.
. I agree. Also, since F1 is not a dual intent visa this will not hold water. Anyways this is a ridiculous demand. We are not the law makers and we should consider ourselves lucky that couple of IV's amendments are in a few of the senator�s bills, though there are no guarantees if they will be included in the final text or let alone be passed. We should only push for what is already include in the 2 bills and not confuse everyone every time one of us comes up with this "brilliant" idea of using H1B entry date as priority date. So what's the next amendment we want� include the day I first envisioned that I will come to America as the priority date. WE NEED ONE VOICE and we have already been heard so let�s stick to what is practical and push those amendments through.
. I agree. Also, since F1 is not a dual intent visa this will not hold water. Anyways this is a ridiculous demand. We are not the law makers and we should consider ourselves lucky that couple of IV's amendments are in a few of the senator�s bills, though there are no guarantees if they will be included in the final text or let alone be passed. We should only push for what is already include in the 2 bills and not confuse everyone every time one of us comes up with this "brilliant" idea of using H1B entry date as priority date. So what's the next amendment we want� include the day I first envisioned that I will come to America as the priority date. WE NEED ONE VOICE and we have already been heard so let�s stick to what is practical and push those amendments through.
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senk1s
05-02 09:08 AM
thats all the more reason to recapture visa numbers ... forever.
If they hit 90-95% of the target for the current year - the following year the exact number will be known - and that can be allotted
If they hit 90-95% of the target for the current year - the following year the exact number will be known - and that can be allotted
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singhsa3
09-12 01:50 PM
These are all good thoughts but what u are suggesting takes some time.
The issue has two legs:
Leg 1: Process fix
Leg 2: Increasing number of greencards
What I am talking about is leg 1 and what you are talking about is for leg 2
and both are required.
Sanjeev - I personally feel there is no easy solution for this. Our efforts must be well organized and there has to be geniune effort. A lot of people who post here are all frustrated and angered and they channelize their anger and frustration through these forums whereas instead if it is channelized in a positive way - our campaigns will be more effective and we can reach our goals.
The issue has two legs:
Leg 1: Process fix
Leg 2: Increasing number of greencards
What I am talking about is leg 1 and what you are talking about is for leg 2
and both are required.
Sanjeev - I personally feel there is no easy solution for this. Our efforts must be well organized and there has to be geniune effort. A lot of people who post here are all frustrated and angered and they channelize their anger and frustration through these forums whereas instead if it is channelized in a positive way - our campaigns will be more effective and we can reach our goals.
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gccube
07-19 03:29 PM
You forgot that there were another 150,000 applications in this example with RD prior to PersonB and it is very likely that many of them could have the PD of April, 2003. Therefore, PersonB will still not get it even though he/she has an older Priority date!!
I think that after this stampede of application filings in June/July/August, USCIS needs to sort them by PD first otherwise people with older priority dates will suffer simply due to the volume of applications filed!!
If a person with PD 2003 May applies for AOS only in Oct 2007. If the above said statement is true then when are they going to work on this new application they got. If they are not going to work on it until the RD becomes current why are they even accepting the case.
I think that after this stampede of application filings in June/July/August, USCIS needs to sort them by PD first otherwise people with older priority dates will suffer simply due to the volume of applications filed!!
If a person with PD 2003 May applies for AOS only in Oct 2007. If the above said statement is true then when are they going to work on this new application they got. If they are not going to work on it until the RD becomes current why are they even accepting the case.
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9years
10-22 08:03 AM
our attorney did not port yet. He will (if not automatically ported ) now. I am not sure how one should do, we will port after I-140 approval. I-140 approval time, I am not sure 2 days - 4 months. In my case it took 2 days (premium processing).
Hope it helps.
Thank you.
Hope it helps.
Thank you.
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baleraosreedhar
06-24 11:03 AM
I would like to add some points where America is loosing
1) Less number of students are willing to come to USA as they are not seeing any future due to H1 lottery system and they have to wait for one year to apply in the 20K category as they getting rjections in applie din april as they will be graduating in june timeframe.Students are not getting jobs as there are very few companies ready to sponser them.So a long time career settlement options for students is diminishing here in USA as they cannot get GC in 2-3 year timeframe and lot of companies are not interested in wasting their resources on H1 and then applying GC for prospective students.So all these student with bright ideas are looking elsewhere like australia,germany,Uk for their education and reasearch and residency.So american is loosing their future research scientists to other countries.
2) Career Advancement :
Lot of H1bs converted to EAD are facing these issues, they are not able to plan for their future properly as they are not sure when they will get their GC and the moves they are making now is it acceptable to USCIS, will the next job fall into the same category as Labour or USCIS will accept the career advancment theory.So they are in jeopardy weather to take a new job and take chance or stick on to the old job.As due to this issue even though he may be dreaming of biggest technological breakthrough/Biggest supply chain enhancement/ reveloutionaly marketing spin off , he will not dare to realize his dream as he himself is not sure of his position here in US, which in turn might have helped thousands of people gaining employment and in turn helping economy.So this constant issue of settlement may force the propective employer to leave his brilliant idea and move back to his home country.
3) Peer pressure:
As GC applicants are not able cherish their dream in the applicable timeframe they are constantly exposed to peer pressure to look out for other avenues for their career growth and settlement.
1) Less number of students are willing to come to USA as they are not seeing any future due to H1 lottery system and they have to wait for one year to apply in the 20K category as they getting rjections in applie din april as they will be graduating in june timeframe.Students are not getting jobs as there are very few companies ready to sponser them.So a long time career settlement options for students is diminishing here in USA as they cannot get GC in 2-3 year timeframe and lot of companies are not interested in wasting their resources on H1 and then applying GC for prospective students.So all these student with bright ideas are looking elsewhere like australia,germany,Uk for their education and reasearch and residency.So american is loosing their future research scientists to other countries.
2) Career Advancement :
Lot of H1bs converted to EAD are facing these issues, they are not able to plan for their future properly as they are not sure when they will get their GC and the moves they are making now is it acceptable to USCIS, will the next job fall into the same category as Labour or USCIS will accept the career advancment theory.So they are in jeopardy weather to take a new job and take chance or stick on to the old job.As due to this issue even though he may be dreaming of biggest technological breakthrough/Biggest supply chain enhancement/ reveloutionaly marketing spin off , he will not dare to realize his dream as he himself is not sure of his position here in US, which in turn might have helped thousands of people gaining employment and in turn helping economy.So this constant issue of settlement may force the propective employer to leave his brilliant idea and move back to his home country.
3) Peer pressure:
As GC applicants are not able cherish their dream in the applicable timeframe they are constantly exposed to peer pressure to look out for other avenues for their career growth and settlement.
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Suva
07-18 03:19 PM
Notice date is different from Receipt date. If your file is delivered on July 2nd then you would get a receipt date of July 2nd even if your information is entered into the system 2 months after the receipt date.
I am confused about receipt date?
Notice date is when the receipt notice is generated- That's simple
Is receipt date the date when they do data entry into the system or is it the date when they receive the package even though they may do data entry a month later?
In other words people who filed there application on July 2nd,3rd etc ... and lets say USCIS takes 2 months to receipt those cases.. then after 2 months when the notice is generated won't it have a July 2nd receipt date? for July 2 filers?
I am confused about receipt date?
Notice date is when the receipt notice is generated- That's simple
Is receipt date the date when they do data entry into the system or is it the date when they receive the package even though they may do data entry a month later?
In other words people who filed there application on July 2nd,3rd etc ... and lets say USCIS takes 2 months to receipt those cases.. then after 2 months when the notice is generated won't it have a July 2nd receipt date? for July 2 filers?
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addsf345
11-14 06:02 PM
They highly receommended that people should maintain H1 status as much as possible until the GC process is fully complete.
Regarding EAD they said
. it is a blanket work authorization but you should watch for expiry date and maintain its continuity to keep working.
. interestingly to Murthy's surprise, the EAD has been extended by USCIS even if a MTR is pending. This is unusual as there is no written word about it and preciously USCIS used to deny EAD extensions.
. AOS is authorized stay even if your EAD expries. You are not out of status with EAD expiry but you must renew it ASAP.
. They said "You are allowed to stay until 485 is adjudicated" (meaning while using EAD)
found on this URL: http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/220445073/
Regarding EAD they said
. it is a blanket work authorization but you should watch for expiry date and maintain its continuity to keep working.
. interestingly to Murthy's surprise, the EAD has been extended by USCIS even if a MTR is pending. This is unusual as there is no written word about it and preciously USCIS used to deny EAD extensions.
. AOS is authorized stay even if your EAD expries. You are not out of status with EAD expiry but you must renew it ASAP.
. They said "You are allowed to stay until 485 is adjudicated" (meaning while using EAD)
found on this URL: http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/220445073/
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EndlessWait
07-06 01:50 PM
Cmon stop the rumour. Just because some of you sent the application on 2nd doesnt mean that they will honour it. If and if they do , there will be much more serious and valid lawsuit, because they've already issued a revision from 2nd July. Under law they have to give everyone a fair and equal chance (including the ones who haven't sent there application but were eligible as per old July bulletin).
So pls stop cooking rumours from your lawyer. He simply doesn't want to pay back your fee and keeping your hope high..
2 cents
So pls stop cooking rumours from your lawyer. He simply doesn't want to pay back your fee and keeping your hope high..
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harivenkat
08-13 10:52 AM
as the least consolation.... h1b should get free passes to see demo of those unmanned aerial drones.... :D
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trueguy
08-04 05:14 PM
IV is you me and everybody else. We saw since morning how people are trying to scuttle the idea by giving various and weird reasonings. What is important is writing them. And telling them the gravity and urgency of the situations. words like bonded should be bolded as the truth is 'Yes' in this free American Society we have lived a 'bonded' life...
mirage, I am not trying to turn down this effort. In Fact, I have sent at least 50 letters as part of IV campaigns and I have written so many on my own. All I was saying that we need a professional letter that will have better impact. Once we have the letter ready, I will be the first one to send it out.
mirage, I am not trying to turn down this effort. In Fact, I have sent at least 50 letters as part of IV campaigns and I have written so many on my own. All I was saying that we need a professional letter that will have better impact. Once we have the letter ready, I will be the first one to send it out.
ind_game
05-13 11:58 PM
This is strange, They are saying your I 140 get denied on the date it was approved...
What was the result of second MTR, Is that dismissed too...
No man.........I am waiting for the outcome.......In fact to be frank I am bracing myself for Writ of Mandamus Lawsuit.....frustration....
What was the result of second MTR, Is that dismissed too...
No man.........I am waiting for the outcome.......In fact to be frank I am bracing myself for Writ of Mandamus Lawsuit.....frustration....
priti8888
07-23 06:39 PM
Same thing came in my mind too....
it must be EB2 or a Schulde A nurse
anyway it good to know that someone got GC...
we are EB3 India---
it must be EB2 or a Schulde A nurse
anyway it good to know that someone got GC...
we are EB3 India---
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